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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Girl Startup,

Thanks for you comment.  I think that the comparison to Star Wars is a good one - they are both grand mythic journeys, and I think that&#039;s what makes both of them work so well.

Take care!

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Girl Startup,</p>
<p>Thanks for you comment.  I think that the comparison to Star Wars is a good one &#8211; they are both grand mythic journeys, and I think that&#8217;s what makes both of them work so well.</p>
<p>Take care!</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Girl Startup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Girl Startup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the 2D version on New Years Eve. I don&#039;t normally like these type of films, but I really enjoyed this one. It kind of took me back to when I was kid  where I was obsessed with Star Wars. It&#039;s kind of the same calibre of Star Wars, but much better, because of the advancement with technology and special effects. The story really struck a chord with me and reminded me about how money can become far more important to some than paradise.
.-= Girl Startup´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://girlstartup.posterous.com/my-first-lesson-learnt-from-hiring-people&quot;&gt;My first lesson learnt from hiring people.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the 2D version on New Years Eve. I don&#8217;t normally like these type of films, but I really enjoyed this one. It kind of took me back to when I was kid  where I was obsessed with Star Wars. It&#8217;s kind of the same calibre of Star Wars, but much better, because of the advancement with technology and special effects. The story really struck a chord with me and reminded me about how money can become far more important to some than paradise.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Girl Startup´s last blog ..<a href="http://girlstartup.posterous.com/my-first-lesson-learnt-from-hiring-people">My first lesson learnt from hiring people.</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://andydolph.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://andydolph.com/2010/01/02/avatar-review/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff - money generally makes it easier.... ;)

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff &#8211; money generally makes it easier&#8230;. <img src='http://andydolph.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Jean - why do you say it&#039;s hollow inside?  I think it as a powerful message - and as I said in my reply to Geoff - the story is not new, but I found it fulfilling.  And of course, this film is not trying to be a challenging work for the audience.  I like difficult and challenging work, but I also like things like this when they are well done - I don&#039;t feel one is better then the other - just different.  I&#039;d be interested to hear more about your take.

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Jean &#8211; why do you say it&#8217;s hollow inside?  I think it as a powerful message &#8211; and as I said in my reply to Geoff &#8211; the story is not new, but I found it fulfilling.  And of course, this film is not trying to be a challenging work for the audience.  I like difficult and challenging work, but I also like things like this when they are well done &#8211; I don&#8217;t feel one is better then the other &#8211; just different.  I&#8217;d be interested to hear more about your take.</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;in terms of “how do they do that” I have two answers – “With a LOT of thought and VERY hard work!” and “Very Very Well!!!”&quot;

And lots and lots of money. That helped!  :)
.-= Geoff´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TipsOnWriting/~3/0fkITwPR_kQ/&quot;&gt;Post 26 – Hope, the Enemy of Art&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;in terms of “how do they do that” I have two answers – “With a LOT of thought and VERY hard work!” and “Very Very Well!!!”&#8221;</p>
<p>And lots and lots of money. That helped!  <img src='http://andydolph.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Geoff´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TipsOnWriting/~3/0fkITwPR_kQ/">Post 26 – Hope, the Enemy of Art</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://andydolph.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Review...Avatar is an interesting experience looks great as a treat but is quite hollow inside. Especially on the narrative, the film falls a great deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Review&#8230;Avatar is an interesting experience looks great as a treat but is quite hollow inside. Especially on the narrative, the film falls a great deal.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff - 

I didn&#039;t know you were a filmmaker - I&#039;d love to see your work!!

in terms of &quot;how do they do that&quot; I have two answers - &quot;With a LOT of thought and VERY hard work!&quot; and &quot;Very Very Well!!!&quot;

My friends and I talked about how this was Dances with Wolves in space, and also Pocahontas and FernGully and and and.....  totally agreed.   Yes - it is very very derivative.  The thing I was thinking about was Anne McCaffrey&#039;s Petaybee books which feature a sentient planet. 

Though I agree with you that they could have been more original, I think that when making a $400,000,000 movie that is totally dependent on groundbreaking new technology, I can understand them wanting a proven story that&#039;s known to work - and it did work well....  it may not bother me as much as some because I don&#039;t go to the movies that often....

Besides - the mix of elements really worked well.

Thanks for your comment!  and I had been expecting it at some point ;)

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff &#8211; </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know you were a filmmaker &#8211; I&#8217;d love to see your work!!</p>
<p>in terms of &#8220;how do they do that&#8221; I have two answers &#8211; &#8220;With a LOT of thought and VERY hard work!&#8221; and &#8220;Very Very Well!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>My friends and I talked about how this was Dances with Wolves in space, and also Pocahontas and FernGully and and and&#8230;..  totally agreed.   Yes &#8211; it is very very derivative.  The thing I was thinking about was Anne McCaffrey&#8217;s Petaybee books which feature a sentient planet. </p>
<p>Though I agree with you that they could have been more original, I think that when making a $400,000,000 movie that is totally dependent on groundbreaking new technology, I can understand them wanting a proven story that&#8217;s known to work &#8211; and it did work well&#8230;.  it may not bother me as much as some because I don&#8217;t go to the movies that often&#8230;.</p>
<p>Besides &#8211; the mix of elements really worked well.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!  and I had been expecting it at some point <img src='http://andydolph.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I&#039;ve never heard people say it had no plot.  I completely disagree with that.
.-= Geoff´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TipsOnWriting/~3/0fkITwPR_kQ/&quot;&gt;Post 26 – Hope, the Enemy of Art&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I&#8217;ve never heard people say it had no plot.  I completely disagree with that.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Geoff´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TipsOnWriting/~3/0fkITwPR_kQ/">Post 26 – Hope, the Enemy of Art</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://andydolph.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, you knew I&#039;d have to weigh in on this one, didn&#039;t you...  I&#039;m a reviewer, a writer and a movie maker.  How could I not?  :-)

Yes, I agree, the movie was stunningly beautiful.  It was a fun ride and had some moving moments. Here is what I wrote to my younger brother, who lives in Switzerland and saw it with his kids:

I loved the look of it, the detail, even the use of 3d which was just there to enhance the story, not overtake it.  
 
As for the story, though, I thought it was Dances with Wolves in space.  I get really annoyed with Hollywood&#039;s penchant for presenting any &quot;other&quot; society through the eyes of a white man, who then becomes the &quot;other&#039;s&quot; savior, their hero.  Why not just present the &quot;other&quot; on their own terms, why do we need to be the masters of everything?  And usually, just to make sure it doesn&#039;t look like it&#039;s jingoistic, all the rest of the white people in the move are all racist, macho idiots.  (At least there were four or five people in this iteration that were actually human.)  I could name four or five movies with this model without breaking a sweat.
 
I also found the specifics very derivative.  There were elements of Anne McAffree&#039;s Dragonriders of Pern series, FernGully, Chronicles of Thomas Covalent (the &quot;One Tree&quot; was even the name of, I think, the middle book in that!  A trilogy I highly recommend, by the way.)  I also saw elements of Alien II (those, I think, they call homage... ), Speaker for the Dead (second or third in Card&#039;s Ender series).  Yes, there are no new stories, but there are brilliant books that you could film rather than pulling things from so many places and calling it new.  (That&#039;s just my writer getting his back up.)
 
However, I agree.  I truly enjoyed it and am very glad I saw it on the big screen and in 3D.  As a filmmaker, all I can say about it is, &quot;How did they do that?&quot;  

Yes, even with all this, go see it.  It is a marvel.

Geoff
.-= Geoff´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TipsOnWriting/~3/0fkITwPR_kQ/&quot;&gt;Post 26 – Hope, the Enemy of Art&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, you knew I&#8217;d have to weigh in on this one, didn&#8217;t you&#8230;  I&#8217;m a reviewer, a writer and a movie maker.  How could I not?  <img src='http://andydolph.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, I agree, the movie was stunningly beautiful.  It was a fun ride and had some moving moments. Here is what I wrote to my younger brother, who lives in Switzerland and saw it with his kids:</p>
<p>I loved the look of it, the detail, even the use of 3d which was just there to enhance the story, not overtake it.  </p>
<p>As for the story, though, I thought it was Dances with Wolves in space.  I get really annoyed with Hollywood&#8217;s penchant for presenting any &#8220;other&#8221; society through the eyes of a white man, who then becomes the &#8220;other&#8217;s&#8221; savior, their hero.  Why not just present the &#8220;other&#8221; on their own terms, why do we need to be the masters of everything?  And usually, just to make sure it doesn&#8217;t look like it&#8217;s jingoistic, all the rest of the white people in the move are all racist, macho idiots.  (At least there were four or five people in this iteration that were actually human.)  I could name four or five movies with this model without breaking a sweat.</p>
<p>I also found the specifics very derivative.  There were elements of Anne McAffree&#8217;s Dragonriders of Pern series, FernGully, Chronicles of Thomas Covalent (the &#8220;One Tree&#8221; was even the name of, I think, the middle book in that!  A trilogy I highly recommend, by the way.)  I also saw elements of Alien II (those, I think, they call homage&#8230; ), Speaker for the Dead (second or third in Card&#8217;s Ender series).  Yes, there are no new stories, but there are brilliant books that you could film rather than pulling things from so many places and calling it new.  (That&#8217;s just my writer getting his back up.)</p>
<p>However, I agree.  I truly enjoyed it and am very glad I saw it on the big screen and in 3D.  As a filmmaker, all I can say about it is, &#8220;How did they do that?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Yes, even with all this, go see it.  It is a marvel.</p>
<p>Geoff<br />
<span class="cluv"> Geoff´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TipsOnWriting/~3/0fkITwPR_kQ/">Post 26 – Hope, the Enemy of Art</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://andydolph.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Kathy - Insightful Nana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy - Insightful Nana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grands saw then movie and I&#039;ve had no interest in it until I read your review.  I would be most interested in the creative aspect of the movie.  I&#039;ll have to grab a friend and see it.
.-= Kathy - Insightful Nana´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://insightfulnana.com/boomers/caregiver/caring-for-the-elderly-2/html&quot;&gt;Caring For The Elderly&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grands saw then movie and I&#8217;ve had no interest in it until I read your review.  I would be most interested in the creative aspect of the movie.  I&#8217;ll have to grab a friend and see it.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Kathy &#8211; Insightful Nana´s last blog ..<a href="http://insightfulnana.com/boomers/caregiver/caring-for-the-elderly-2/html">Caring For The Elderly</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://andydolph.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy - I like the boingboing discussion - thanks for pointing it out - though I really only agree with points 4 and 5 - I think that 1-3 would have made me like the film better.

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy &#8211; I like the boingboing discussion &#8211; thanks for pointing it out &#8211; though I really only agree with points 4 and 5 &#8211; I think that 1-3 would have made me like the film better.</p>
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		<title>By: andy w</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw the film a week or two ago with my wife.  We both liked it very much.

My take is, as a film spectacle, its terrific.  Once in a decade type experience.

But I had this nagging feeling there were some lost chances to really hit an emotional home run with the story and characters.

Here&#039;s a link to a discussion I found worthy of your review of the film, Andy.

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/29/five-storytelling-ri.html

Happy to know the 5th row was worth the admission...

AW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the film a week or two ago with my wife.  We both liked it very much.</p>
<p>My take is, as a film spectacle, its terrific.  Once in a decade type experience.</p>
<p>But I had this nagging feeling there were some lost chances to really hit an emotional home run with the story and characters.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to a discussion I found worthy of your review of the film, Andy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/29/five-storytelling-ri.html">http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/29/five-storytelling-ri.html</a></p>
<p>Happy to know the 5th row was worth the admission&#8230;</p>
<p>AW</p>
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